Persistence Pays Off with Dr Ira Price & Kirk Tousaw | Episode 30
Tom Ritchie and Wesley Bowles sit down with two heavyweights in the cannabis industry for an unforgettable episode of Legacies Podcast. In this feature, Dr. Ira Price, an ER doctor and cannabis advocate, along with Kirk Tousaw, celebrated cannabis lawyer and co-founder of Great Gardener Farms, share their thought-provoking journeys and unpack crucial issues like restrictive cannabis marketing regulations, growing challenges, and outlandish government stances.
It's not just about medical or recreational cannabis; it's about revolutionizing an industry – legally, socially, and personally. Let's take a deep dive into the highlights and lessons from this conversation with two deeply influential figures.
CannExec Summit and Accelerating Time
Kicking off the episode on a lighter note, Tom and Wesley talked about the CannExec Summit, a key industry event that’s sparking excitement. Essential cannabis policy updates are expected to drop there, and considering the packed lineup of speakers, it looks like a pivotal moment for those in the cannabis space looking to network and collaborate on a large scale.
"You’re Not Repackaging Your Experience, Are You?"
In one of the most thought-provoking segments, Tom brought up product repackaging and customer trust. The issue at hand: Are companies sunsetting old cannabis products by simply repacking them with new "packaging dates" across Canada? The answer? Yes, some are. And it’s as shady as it sounds. Companies might take product that’s well past its prime and just refresh the packaging to make you think you’re getting something fresh off the line.
It's a huge lesson for operators— if you expect customers to stick with your brand, gutting their trust isn’t the way. As Tom put it, every consumer who's burned by one of these practices won’t ever come back—and it’s only digging the brand's grave.
California Slammed With Hemp Restrictions
A jarring development out of California, the emerging details were hard to digest. Governor Gavin Newsom passed emergency legislation immediately stopping the sales of hemp-derived THC products throughout the state, effectively stripping access for a huge swath of cannabis consumers. Hemp THC products, which tend to offer less psychoactive effects, have become a staple, especially for the medical community. In fact, nearly 95% of hemp products will be banned by this move.
Kirk Tousaw weighed in: “This is a complete regression.” He’s right, the decision—sudden and sweeping—places California, one of the largest cannabis markets, in an odd position. People had heard of the push to better regulate intoxicating hemp products, but no one saw Newsom pulling the plug overnight. Those leaning on these products for medical reasons are left scrambling. How many businesses are about to go under in California thanks to this backward step?
Persistence Is Key for Dr. Ira Price
Enter Dr. Ira Price, an ER physician who also happens to be one of the most outspoken medical cannabis advocates in Canada. His story embodies persistence—an underlying theme for this episode.
Ira shares his formative education and a battle against established health systems reluctant to accept the growing body of cannabis research. His more than two decades navigating the “drudgery” of both Western medicine and the healthcare system’s traditional toolbox gave him the respect and edge to pivot his career towards cannabis advocacy.
A plan that started as “frustration with the opioid epidemic” has blossomed into co-authoring a pivotal medical cannabis access study. The framework he laid in the early 2010s has been nothing short of groundbreaking, considering how resistant the medical field was to cannabis at the start. But he didn’t clear this path without pushback from the system and from colleagues.
Ira also dropped some hot knowledge bombs about opioids’ long-term impact on testosterone, dopamine, and oxytocin. Essentially, opioids hack your system, morphing your physiology and making you anti-social. Over time, that can lead to isolation—a major driver of depression. But cannabis? Completely different interaction with receptors. It allows people to become more sociable, helping them stay grounded even with chronic pain. It's this outlook that drives Ira’s advocacy and the influence he's wielding in reshaping Canada’s medical cannabis landscape.
On top of his medical work, Ira discussed his Lovely Human Collective. With profits previously donated to various charitable causes like World Central Kitchen, the initiative stemmed from a place of unity during COVID-19 lockdowns. The brand not only aims to bring people together but is a reflection of Ira’s broader vision of making connections with positive vibes. Even his merch—yes, oversized tees included—supports charitable causes.
Kirk Tousaw: The Rally for Cannabis Rights Isn’t Done Yet
Legalization feels like a distant memory, but Kirk Tousaw reminded us during his segment: the battle is far from over. An aggressive advocate for cannabis within Canada’s complex legal framework, Kirk’s been defending medical patients’ rights since long before it became stylish (let’s flash back to 2004).
His career as a cannabis lawyer goes beyond cases grounding medical cannabis in civil liberties. He's talked openly of the need to challenge the Canadian government on restrictive marketing laws, promotion bans, and excise taxation—especially on medical products. And frankly, he’s right.
When companies can't even tell you what their products can offer for your health, how does a market remain competitive? It doesn’t. Kirk mentioned that while producers sit and wait for the government to consult (again and again), it’s likely time for someone to step up and take the case to court.
Kirk has seen how lagging regulations hurt both medical patents and recreational users: vendors can’t share the essential benefits of their products, customers can’t learn through marketing, and continued restrictive measures choke smaller operators trying to compete with big corporations. Worst of all, medical patients are still trapped—either looking through crammed shelves of generic bud or straining through outdated regulatory systems.
Then there’s the hope that hemp-derived CBD will be seen for what it is—a non-toxic product beneficial to wellness without the need for criminal oversight. Kirk’s pushing for governmental logic to prevail and for CBD to be offered across all retail sectors like any other hemp product. If the U.S. can push for it, Canada should have no excuse.
Wrapping Up: A Brand-New Legacy
Dr. Ira Price, Kirk Tousaw, professional activism, the grimy behind-the-scenes battle for cannabis access—this episode had it all. These are the kind of stories that don’t get told enough. Sure, they both downplay the resistance they faced, but the outcome is hard to ignore: Freedom of access (though not fully realized yet).
And it’s a community reminder—no win has been easy. These guys fought tooth and nail for both medical access and rational laws but more change is coming.
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